(Decent) laptops for €450

Did I say sub-€500 laptops? And how! Check out this decent Lenovo 3000 C200 for an astonishing €455 (including delivery). Is this the cheapest mainstream laptop on the Irish market? Are we nearing the €400 laptop?
This Toshiba Satellite L30 for €509 (including delivery) is also pretty decent, though it only has a 60GB hard drive.