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Emma Kytzia

Another hugely valuable post Adrian. All good stuff, mostly common sense, but I am sure I've broken most of these rules before (and will probably break a few of them inadvertently going forward, too. Just less often now, thanks to you.)

Adrian

Thanks for the comment, Emma.

Adrian

Emmet Ryan

Perhaps stick in a 13. We have people with baseball bats on call for persistent offenders.

Francis Mahon

Re: 5

Why is 'Eire' such a big no-no? It appears on our stamps, our currency, on all sorts of government forms and publications. It is, apparently, also the official name of the country, at least according to article 4 of the Constitution.

I have my own thoughts on why there is resistance to calling this nation by it's proper name, but I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on it.

Thomas Brunkard

It's funny Adrian, but people in PR actually get all this feedback in college. It's bizzare when they are subsequently employed, many cheerfully throw this training in the bin.

Good luck with your crusade. You should work for the PRII.


Adrian

Francis,

Article 4 says:

"The name of the State is Éire, or, in the English language, Ireland."

I had always understood this to mean that, when speaking in the English language, the name of the country is Ireland. And that it is 'Eire' when speaking in the Irish language (which is the first official national language, by the way).

In any case, that's the way the law books interpret it (from memory as a law student).

It's not the proactive use of 'Eire' that is the problem. It is the avoidance of the term 'Ireland' by English PR firms that seems to irk Irish people.

And here's why: that avoidance is for a reason -- they do not want to acknowledge the 26 counties as being 'Ireland'. In their eyes, there are two 'Irelands'.

So even if we decide -- as our constitution insists -- that we must be called 'Ireland', they refuse. Hence the ire at the use of the term 'Eire' from an English source.

Believe it or not, there have actually been Supreme Court cases over this. One, in particular, led to an extradition request being refused because English courts refused to refer to the judicial system of Ireland (as I recall).

And there is still diplomatic tension -- between friendly countries -- over the term 'President of Ireland'. As far as people in this country are concerned, that's her official title. But Britain (and Australia) refuse to acknowledge the title, referring to her as Irish President Mary McAleese. Seriously.

Is all of this hoo-haa outdated and parochial? Without a doubt. Is it nevertheless a reality? Damn sure.

So if you want to pitch into an Irish media institution, go ahead and use 'Eire' if you really want to...

new jordans

Your comments might be better directed toward Pope Benedict,who graciously received Pres.Obama at the Vatican recently.

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