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Marie

TJ does indeed have a view, he's in the siliconrepublic article saying: "The ruling by the French Constitutional Court undermines IRMA’s attempt to get other ISPs to come aboard."

and he says that while the IRMA/Eircom thing is a private agreement this French ruling will still make it harder for the music industry here to force the ‘three strikes’ rule on Irish ISPs.

Cheers,

Marie

Adrian

Cheers Marie.

I mean, whether he has a view on the question of whether internet access is a right under freedom of expression.

As to what he's quoted as saying, don't agree with him.

Adrian

Marie

Now that *is* an interesting legal debate. Is internet access a right or a privilege? Has this been argued in court before? I assume there is no precedent for this?

It's like having a transport system where there are no individual cars and you can't walk, only private bus companies exist. If you are banned from all for, say, hopping on without a ticket you have no way of traveling from place to place. You cannot be denied freedom of movement.

andyaz

The overturning of Hadopi was good news but I don't see how a French ruling on legislation affects the private IRMA/Eircom deal in Ireland. Surely this will be down to if/where the deal contradicts European regulations (not merely french law)?

Would be interested to know how the likes of ammendment 138 (still being voted on) could affect this deal.

That ammemdment seems to conflict with the 3 strikes policy, as it protects both our right to "access to information" and our right to a fair hearing ("a judgment by an independent and impartial tribunal established by law"). So, perhaps the deal remains unchallenged but the implimentation of 3 strikes will prove more difficult?

Thomas Brunkard

If Hadopi is a gonner then the French can stop holding up the EU Telecoms Reforms package due to their problems with ammendment 138.

If 138 goes through then la mort du Hadopi will be de naissance of secured net neutrality.

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